Comments on: The 45 Social by Social Propositions https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/ Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:43:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: La Conception 2.0 selon la ‘World Bank’ | bluenove La Conception 2.0 selon la ‘World Bank’ | opening innovation https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-47800 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:43:04 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-47800 […] by the 45 propositions for social media, below is a modest attempt at putting together some initial thoughts for a Development 2.0 (the […]

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By: La conception 2.0 selon la ‘World Bank’ | bluenove La conception 2.0 selon la ‘World Bank’ | opening innovation https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-40319 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:31:32 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-40319 […] by the 45 propositions for social media, below is a modest attempt at putting together some initial thoughts for a Development 2.0 (the […]

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By: Amy Sample Ward https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-1869 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:36:02 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-1869 David – thanks for throwing in those words! I think that tags, since that’s really what those lists of words are, create a simple and often times more compelling way to conceptualize a topic. In this case, comparing the 1.0 and 2.0 words makes much of what is discussed in the Propositions obvious: openness, flexibility, and the moving of control to the community.

Thanks for sharing those!

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By: Amy Sample Ward https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-1858 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:33:44 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-1858 Thanks – Dan! As always, great feedback and pushes to keep moving.

I look at the Propositions as the ingredients in the spice cabinet that as a whole create the kitchen, but alone are pretty random and often unuseful (how often do you have a recipe that ONLY calls for fenugreek?). Yet, just listing the ingredients off, doesn’t “make” the kitchen, either. As you say, we need to capture the new worldview created when all of these Propositions are in place, when we have a kitchen that is drawing on all the possible tastes. Maybe it’s a bad metaphor…

One next step that we are working on for repurposing the content we developed for the handbook is to create a space either on or offline or both where people can contribute their own lessons learned and case studies that use the 45 Propositions, and we hope that this process will really start creating that higher level picture of the new ethic that social media has surfaced and enabled.

Of course, I’ll keep you posted – and will look for more challenges and questions to keep it moving forward!

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By: David Wilcox https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-1853 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:18:36 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-1853 Dan’s point about underlying worldview reminds me David Gurteen did a Worldview 1.0 – 2.0 comparison a while back – see http://www.designingforcivilsociety.org/2008/03/not-getting-it.html for that and other links

Words that featured in 2.0: sharing, social learning, transparency, freedom, freely, uncontrolled, own voice, open, complex

compared with 1.0: imposed, closed, controlled, stripped, professional voice, authority. cause and effect

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By: dan mcquillan https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-1851 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:55:21 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-1851 Like i said on Andy’s blog (http://sociability.org.uk/2009/04/06/45-propositions/#comment-66), long lists of social media tips aren’t tapping the deeper potential for impact.

The interesting question is what do all these observations point to? What is the new worldview or ethic that social media is surfacing? Sussing that wouldn’t just bring coherence to the lists but would unlock the social implications at level beyond ways-to-do-socialmedia.

The periodic table is a great example; although for years it was simply a useful way of ordering of properties, it’s real impact was it’s part in the (re)emergence of the atomic model.

yours atomically
dan

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By: Clive Holtham https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-1855 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:03:22 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-1855 I was thinking that some of the 45 are found universally, while others are more rare. But not expecting to map them directly (though could be done humorously!).

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By: Amy Sample Ward https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-1854 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:45:15 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-1854 Thanks, Clive – A periodic table of social media elements. I like that!

So long as we don’t have to pair propositions with elements and try to agree which one is Oxygen 🙂

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By: Amy Sample Ward https://amysampleward.org/2009/04/07/the-45-social-by-social-propositions/comment-page-1/#comment-1856 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:42:22 +0000 http://www.amysampleward.org/?p=658#comment-1856 Tambe-

Thank you so much for your contribution. You are very wrong in saying that all the intelligent contributions have already been made – the conversation, I hope, will continue and great ideas like yours keep it moving!

You raise a terrific point here. There are certainly situations where those that really need to be influenced or touched are not online or even part of the conversation. This is a chance for using technology to collect and harness the power of all those concerned about the issue or subject you work on, and empowering their voices to carry beyond the website or application so that those in power really hear it. For example, maybe you have a petition that you encourage supporters to sign and comment on. The political figure who it targets maybe not be online or have even heard of your website. But when you get enough supporters to sign the petition, and you move it from the internet and onto his desk or email inbox – the statement is much more powerful.

The greatest power of social media is the ability to organize and collaborate, outside of traditional barriers like geography, age or race. Using technology to organizer and mobilize people who support your work is the best thing you can do – and target those organizing and mobilizing goals towards moving the message from the supporters to those “in charge.”

Thanks again for adding to the conversation here. As we continue to develop resources for these Propositions and the book, I will keep you posted here on the blog and will look forward to more great feedback!

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